The one who produces and works always gets his ass kicked in this country, it was, is and will be like that, whether under communism, under PiS, or under Tusk. Small farms should have it easier because they are not able to meet certain regulations or eco-schemes, but only on the condition of an invoice, and for animals for production, because as it is now, either subsidies have been increased or subsidies for production have been increased, and now the one who does not have anything will get it the same .
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Satisfied Farmer 2024-04-15 12:19:00
Angelo But somehow the land is never fallow, and in order to receive subsidies, it must be kept in good condition, right? This means that someone is cultivating these lands. And if someone has 5 hectares or more and he manages it after work, it’s not your business, just stay away from his field. I would also grow crops, but why do I have to move grain, destroy equipment, fuel, etc. And the fact that you didn’t receive subsidies is not the fault of others, ha ha
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Angelo 2024-04-15 10:41:52
Pseudo farmers, the so-called “subsidy payers”, have already had several good months of subsidies on their accounts, already wasted for all purposes except agriculture, and real farmers, breeders who invest in farms, provide jobs, they don’t even have rates for welfare, let alone talk about final subsidies in our area, the farmer who has animals, none of them has subsidies and not all of us received advance payments in November, ridiculous amounts, such a circus was invented by the PiS gang and so on, the PES group is still in this circus, Deputy Minister Krajewski should be he should be ashamed to say that he makes videos of himself milking cows on holidays, but in reality he doesn’t care about breeders… he and the entire ministry take care of farms up to 5 hectares, which even a child in kindergarten knows that there are no such farms in Poland for a long time, they only exist on ARiMR paper.
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Andrzej Kowalczyk 2024-04-15 11:21:57
Sir! Suggesting that the problems of Polish agriculture come from supporting farms up to 5 ha is absolute nonsense!!! Especially since each farm receives the same payment rate per head of cattle and per hectare. So why should those who have small farms get nothing, live in poverty and still work for you, the landowners, for a few pennies? Do you want the return of serfdom or maybe slavery?
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baca56 2024-04-15 16:35:50
@Andrzej Kowalczyk It is debatable whether the support for small social farms is the source of the problems of Polish agriculture. In my opinion it’s wasted money. But your next claims about equal subsidies for ha and for art are an obvious lie. I receive subsidies for 20 cows and 20 young animals, but for the remaining 200 I don’t have a penny. LFA, ecological PRŚK and other payments above 50 ha are subject to degression. Just today I signed a lease for 10 ha of meadows for PLN 2,500/ha, because that’s how much the owner, a “farmer from Marszałkowska”, was making various payments. I will get maybe half of these subsidies for these lands (with the same strict requirements) – because of degressions… It’s not profitable for me, but I was forced by ARiMR.
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JohnVejn6920 2024-04-15 18:06:57
Baca56, you hit the point – how many subsidies do cow farmers receive, and when you convert it into units, the bigger the penny issues. People didn’t get the drought subsidies because they have animals, and most cattle farmers didn’t get subsidies for silage.
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Satisfied Farmer 2024-04-15 19:58:38
Only when they take part in tenders for leased land, the grain farmers are eliminated halfway through and the Krowiarze are just starting to compete with each other. They also rank first in crying😀
BlackFox
2024-04-15 18:58:32
The one who produces and works always gets his ass kicked in this country, it was, is and will be like that, whether under communism, under PiS, or under Tusk. Small farms should have it easier because they are not able to meet certain regulations or eco-schemes, but only on the condition of an invoice, and for animals for production, because as it is now, either subsidies have been increased or subsidies for production have been increased, and now the one who does not have anything will get it the same .
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Satisfied Farmer
2024-04-15 12:19:00
Angelo But somehow the land is never fallow, and in order to receive subsidies, it must be kept in good condition, right? This means that someone is cultivating these lands. And if someone has 5 hectares or more and he manages it after work, it’s not your business, just stay away from his field. I would also grow crops, but why do I have to move grain, destroy equipment, fuel, etc. And the fact that you didn’t receive subsidies is not the fault of others, ha ha
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Angelo
2024-04-15 10:41:52
Pseudo farmers, the so-called “subsidy payers”, have already had several good months of subsidies on their accounts, already wasted for all purposes except agriculture, and real farmers, breeders who invest in farms, provide jobs, they don’t even have rates for welfare, let alone talk about final subsidies in our area, the farmer who has animals, none of them has subsidies and not all of us received advance payments in November, ridiculous amounts, such a circus was invented by the PiS gang and so on, the PES group is still in this circus, Deputy Minister Krajewski should be he should be ashamed to say that he makes videos of himself milking cows on holidays, but in reality he doesn’t care about breeders… he and the entire ministry take care of farms up to 5 hectares, which even a child in kindergarten knows that there are no such farms in Poland for a long time, they only exist on ARiMR paper.
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Andrzej Kowalczyk
2024-04-15 11:21:57
Sir! Suggesting that the problems of Polish agriculture come from supporting farms up to 5 ha is absolute nonsense!!! Especially since each farm receives the same payment rate per head of cattle and per hectare. So why should those who have small farms get nothing, live in poverty and still work for you, the landowners, for a few pennies? Do you want the return of serfdom or maybe slavery?
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baca56
2024-04-15 16:35:50
@Andrzej Kowalczyk It is debatable whether the support for small social farms is the source of the problems of Polish agriculture. In my opinion it’s wasted money. But your next claims about equal subsidies for ha and for art are an obvious lie. I receive subsidies for 20 cows and 20 young animals, but for the remaining 200 I don’t have a penny. LFA, ecological PRŚK and other payments above 50 ha are subject to degression. Just today I signed a lease for 10 ha of meadows for PLN 2,500/ha, because that’s how much the owner, a “farmer from Marszałkowska”, was making various payments. I will get maybe half of these subsidies for these lands (with the same strict requirements) – because of degressions… It’s not profitable for me, but I was forced by ARiMR.
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JohnVejn6920
2024-04-15 18:06:57
Baca56, you hit the point – how many subsidies do cow farmers receive, and when you convert it into units, the bigger the penny issues. People didn’t get the drought subsidies because they have animals, and most cattle farmers didn’t get subsidies for silage.
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Satisfied Farmer
2024-04-15 19:58:38
Only when they take part in tenders for leased land, the grain farmers are eliminated halfway through and the Krowiarze are just starting to compete with each other. They also rank first in crying😀
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